In that case try:

"send[ing] an email to the Cap’n at Captain@Muddyum.org. You are Advised to send a draft or published link to give an idea of what you write. We are also on Slack. The only way to join us there is by a private invitation, also from the Cap’n, through your email request."

The above is taken from https://medium.com/muddyum/humor-writing-and-muddyum-1bac7f0d6632

The Haven has more followers but we are comparing thousands to thousands, and who can count that high?

We give you something though. If you want to improve your skills, we're there for you. We commit to jumping on your article within 24 hours. We have more than a dozen volunteer co-editors so we manage.

So check it out. If you want to grow, come join us. If on the other hand you're a snowflake who can't bear criticism, stick with the Haven.

Or do both. We won't be jealous!

https://medium.com/muddyum/muddyum-the-premier-place-for-comedy-ce86286180a